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Can someone explain to me why there's such a compelling need to sexualize and Romantic-ize characters? I've been there myself, but I seem to have gone past that as a "serious" endeavor. I'll *play* with characters and their sexuality -- but the *need* to pair them up romantically just isn't a priority, and it seems so unnecessary, and somewhat Mary Sueish, especially if it's certain types of het and slash writing.

It's not so much the sexualizing -- that I get, it's fun to imagine your favorite characters whupping it up with the whipped cream and cherries, and get down and dirty and sweaty. But at the same time, what I'm puzzled more about is the need to Harlequinnize decent characters who already have complex, nonsexual relationships with each other, that get totally boring when they DO get together.

Anyone?

Date: 2005-08-22 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gategrrl.livejournal.com
Well...I'm not sure it's hypocritical, but to me it *does* stem from the same well as the Jack/Sam shippers -- I don't care if one pair has more chemistry than the other pair, it doesn't matter if, to me, both pairings are distasteful (for different reasons altogether) or that one pair is starcrossed because of regulations and other because she's a sexual predator (and I *like* that character).

It's just...I'm baffled, I tell you!

Date: 2005-08-22 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonshayde.livejournal.com
No, I stand by my assessment, even if it is an unpopular one.

Some people really do believe in their pairing, whoever that pairing might be. That doesn't bother me much. I don't get it, but whatever. Whatever makes you happy. We're all here playing in the same pond. We might just catch different fish.

But, I do get a little uneasy when a camp that says they are anti-ship starts shipping themselves.

Mind you, I get just as angry with people that tell me to be quiet and deal with the loss of Jack while it's okay to be upset with the loss of Daniel inS eason 6. I am adult enough to know there are different circumstances, but I have a right to like or dislike whatever characters I like. Everyone does. Just don't shove it in everyone's face.

That being said, I find there are quite a bit of hypocrites out there.

Date: 2005-08-23 07:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] graculus.livejournal.com
But, I do get a little uneasy when a camp that says they are anti-ship starts shipping themselves.

To which the immediate response would be: are these people anti-ship or are they anti-ship on the show or are they anti-SamJack or are they anti-SamJack as it's presented on the show? There's a wide variety of what 'ship' is as much as there is what it means to be 'anti-'.

Personally, my view is that people ought to get on and ship whatever they want in fandom but I don't want to see it on-screen, thanks very much. In any circumstances. ;)

Date: 2005-08-23 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonshayde.livejournal.com
Since I am not naming names here (and I won't) and this is just for the sake of conversation...

Never ever had a problem with people slashing or shipping (even Sam and Jack) in the fandom. I just don't like it when it becomes the end all be all. Different strokes for different folks.

But, I have seen various variations of this. Some people totally anti-ship suddenly shipping, some anti-Sam/Jack, etc, etc. They have a right to do it, it's just that it seems a bit hyporcritical to me with some of these folk.

Then again, I'm all about gen and only explore ship and slash, most of which I don't see, in fanfic just to do something different. All our opinions are biased.

But that just happens to be the way I feel about it. ;)

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