gategrrl ([personal profile] gategrrl) wrote2007-01-20 01:27 am
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I give up. I surrender.

I've come to the realization that I'm hooked on CSI.  Every night I lie down on the couch and watch the two to three hours the recorder records off of Spike TV and watch. And OMG, since I've been watching the earlier seasons, before it became more like it's glitzier spin-offs Miami and New York, I actually LIKE Grissom now. And Sarah. And although the writing is uneven here and there, at least in the earlier seasons the characters interacted, and now I "get" what other folks were saying about "Team" on this show.  Don't know if I'd look up fic for it.  And Nick Stokes is a babe, alright.   And some fans are going to roll their eyes at this, but I saw the Ship Development between Grissom and Sarah happening from way in the beginning - from like, the first six episodes.  I don't know how I feel about it, exactly, but I'm not up in arms about it. Hey, NOT a shipper here. After all, they did "flirt" with the idea of Willows and Warrick for a while, I noticed.  Well, as long as the affair between Grissom and Sarah is dealt with realisitically - for example, Grissom is reprimanded, or Sarah has to be moved to day-shift or go to another facility in another city (can you imagine her in "Crossing Jordan"? LOL) I'll go with it.

I'm not totally caught up yet, but I have realized (after finding an episode list) that I've caught a lot of season ... five? or four? before. Which might explain why I wasn't thrilled with the characters. Somewhere along the way, they all lost their souls to the Neilson machine and the glitz.

nialla: (Comma Sutra)

[personal profile] nialla 2007-01-20 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
IIRC, there was an interview somewhere that said they'd deleted some stuff in the pilot episode that indicated that there was an affair going on between Stokes and Willows. I haven't seen the first ep since I heard about that, to see if I noticed anything though.

I don't mind a bit a flirting, they're all human, but it's just when TPTB make that the raison d'etre for a character (usually the female half of the couple) I get pissed.

[identity profile] gategrrl.livejournal.com 2007-01-20 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmm. I'm on the borderline with Sarah. I don't think Grissom is the *reason* she's there - well, okay, plot-wise, yes, he used to be her prof and he was the one who requested she come over to Vegas and check up on Warren and join the CSI team (although never did I hear her actually be *hired*, you know? it was assumed she was on the team).

I do think that Sarah is enough of her own person, with her own mind (unlike a certain blond bimboish scientist that emerged out of a competent likable one on Stargate) that she isn't completely there ONLY for Grissom. At least in the earlier seasons.

Geez, why is a show always better (almost) in the earlier seasons? The one exception would be The Next Gen and probably DS9, which got better as it went along.
nialla: (Oz)

[personal profile] nialla 2007-01-21 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I didn't mind Sarah at first (though I don't really care for the character in general -- too bitchy), it was only later when doe eyes to Grissom became her primary reason to exist that I gave up on her.

Geez, why is a show always better (almost) in the earlier seasons? The one exception would be The Next Gen and probably DS9, which got better as it went along.

Many shows take time to explore the characters and settings, such as TNG and DS9, so things get better as they go along. Other shows think that after a few years they've got nowhere else to go but to force a ship into play.

[identity profile] gategrrl.livejournal.com 2007-01-22 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
it was only later when doe eyes to Grissom became her primary reason to exist that I gave up on her.

Oh yeah...I know. That episode where the only purpose of the murder was to show Grissom getting all emo-ey when the victim resembled (sort of) Sarah Sidle...ick. Give me a break.

And you're right. It's in the later season, the one I first saw, where I was so "Yuck, these Fashion Forensics People!" No personalities! And I don't think I was wrong. They did all get shallower (if that was possible) in the later seasons. And the cow-eyes did get more frequent.

[identity profile] gategrrl.livejournal.com 2007-01-21 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmm. I saw the first episode recently (it was just played on Spike)...and there was this weird vibe going on between Willows and Stokes. I guess that's what it was. I'm glad they didn't go that way, though.

[identity profile] brihana25.livejournal.com 2007-01-22 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
/me does the Myposian Dance of Joy and fights the urge to say "I told you so! I told you so!"

:D

Ah... Nicky...

[identity profile] gategrrl.livejournal.com 2007-01-22 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
You told me so?

I may be watching it now - but on certain issues with this show, my mind hasn't changed much. There are still plenty of instances where the glitz overcomes the substance, and the science gets wonkier than Sam Carter on a science tear. I still make fun of parts of it.

[identity profile] brihana25.livejournal.com 2007-01-22 01:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I told you that Nick was a hottie, which I think you agreed with from the very beginning. And I told you that the early seasons were better than the new ones.

I make fun of it too, though my insults are usually reserved for their appearances - like the porn-stache and Beatles haircut of S6, and even though I really liked Sarah to start with, now just the sound of her voice irritates the heck outta me.

[identity profile] gategrrl.livejournal.com 2007-01-22 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
The PORN-stache! OMG, that was *awful*.

Eames/Stokes: man, he changes looks more often than...well, I didn't think it was possible for a guy to change his look so often. The show I watched last night (the one with the Swingers partying, a woman dead in a fountain) his head was practically shaved. In more recent shows, he's got the Supernatural cut with bangs feathered over his forehead.

The only other character with MORE looks is Willows and Greg - and Greg seems to have settled down some. He looks good with that bleach blond thing going. He had some goofy hair before that.